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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 20, 2010 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: GD question for my dad

Father's Day got me thinking. For some reason, for many years, my father has had one invariable comment whenever the GD comes up, and it's a perplexing one:

"I read an article about them, and Jerry Garcia was famous for doing the song that goes, 'Standing on the Corner, Not Doing a Bit of Harm, When Along Comes a Policeman and Takes me By the Arm.' That's an old children's song!" (Insert sound of harumph.)

His point apparently being that the band isn't innovative, maybe? I dunno. But it's ALWAYS what he says.

Now, I'm sure my knowledge of GD music isn't encyclopedic, but it's pretty tolerable, and I've never been able to figure out where he got that idea. So I searched the archive, and learned something new: they did do a song called Standing on the Corner regularly in 1966! Here it is, with a dawn-of-time Rider and other prehistoric artifacts:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1966-07-30.sbd.GEMS.94631.flac16

BUT...... it is not the "children's song" that Old Dad persists in thinking is somehow integral to their fame. It's entirely different. Can anyone say if I'm missing something obvious? Or if, perchance, Jerry might have done the song with JGB or something?

If not, I might actually win the debate. (Assuming he concedes.)

If so, I would love to congratulate Good Old Dad on his vast GD knowledge :-)





This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-06-20 21:57:43

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 20, 2010 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

your GOD is thinking of Blue Yodel #9, which Jerry sang toward the end of his career

http://www3.clearlight.com/~acsa/songfile/BLUEYOD9.HTM

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Jun 20, 2010 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

I stand 100% corrected. Thank you for the propper title. I now feel like a punk who calls Babba O'rielly(sp) "teenage wasteland". Any who, that's the one. But, whatever the title, is it a kids song?

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jun 21, 2010 1:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Didn't Jerry do that on those final studio sessions he did before he died? I believe I had a tape of that song from that session from the Dead Hour many years ago and always liked it. Anybody have any info on that session?

I had another GD hour tape that had the Scarlet>Fire from 4/11/78 and some random live version of Blue Yodel from the 90's, before I got into serious collecting that was one of my favorite tapes and I wore the hell out of it.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 20, 2010 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Speaking as (I hope) a Good Old Dad myself I would think that your GOD (unfortunate acronym there, but let it ride) is doing what GODs down the ages have done, which is to pretend to a wisdom and experience that both anticipates and is superior to your own and which taps into a deeper and more primal well of knowledge than is accessible to you (ok, maybe not such an unfortunate acronym after all). Or in other words, that stuff you're listening to is crap and anyway so and so did it much better when I was a boy. Guilty as charged, yer honor.


And never miss a chance to flag up some 66 Dead!

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Jun 20, 2010 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Your Dad is referring to Tennesee Hustler. If it is a kids song, then I am Jerry Garcia. Standing on the corner, I didn't mean no harm- when a police come, and took me by the arm. Way down in Memphis, corner of Beal&Main, said'"hey little boy, you'd better tell me your name". Said, "you'll find my name on the back of my shirt, I'm a Tennesee hustler and I don't have to work". ETC...
One of our all time favorite kids tunes! I find the young ones resonate with the whole huslter, gambler, chain gang thing so well, puts 'em right to sleep. That's a pretty funny thing for your dad to say- he sounds cool.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 20, 2010 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Louis Armstrong played on the original version with Jimmie Rodgers. Here he is on the old Johnny Cash show performing it with the Man in Black:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x75lta_louis-armstrong-johnny-cash-blue-yo_music

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 20, 2010 5:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

That's not the song he means, either, which includes verses about bed bugs and roaches playing a game of ball in the old county jail. But I think the accumulated wisdom has pointed to a solution to the mystery.

Here's my theory: At some point, Pater Familias read an article that referenced Jerry doing the Jimmie Rodgers song. He then concluded it was the same song he knew as a kid (roaches and bed bugs and all), and of course, has used it ever since to (a) try to get my goat (which isn't nearly so easily gotten), (b) prove the music is crap, and (c) kindly avoid saying what he really thinks, which is "they're a bunch of drug addicts playing for drug-addled kids who all support the Sandinista." (I didn't say he was particularly accurate or up-to-date.)

So ... that's my best guess. Thanks, Sherlocks!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 20, 2010 6:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions did perform Jimmie Rodgers' 'In The Jailhouse Now'. Maybe that's the song he's thinking of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NoYhrTzcs&;feature=PlayList&p=2AD554D6DFA9D9B4&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=8

Another JR song, Blue Yodel #1, inspired lyrical changes to both New, New, Minglewood Blues ("T for Texas"), and I Know You Rider ("I'd rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log").

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 20, 2010 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Oh, I'm quite sure he wasn't thinking of that. I don't think an article about Jerry in the Wall Street Journal or whatever would have gotten into the song selections of Mother McCree's, LOL, unless it was one heck of a knowledgeable reporter.

But what a great link! I had no idea that the Mother McCree's songs were on YouTube ... lots of them! Fun.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 21, 2010 6:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Youtube is evil. (It tries to prevent me from earning a living.)

I had a Garcia album of children's songs years ago, I guess I lost it, but I seem to remember he did that song, "Ain't no bugs on me, might be bugs on some of you mugs but there ain't no bugs on me ..." I remember my little one singing that.

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Poster: dzdirewolf Date: Jun 21, 2010 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Garcia Grisman. Not just for kids only. I play this for my daughter all the time she loves it.

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Jun 21, 2010 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

And currently being used in an anti-flea commercial for dogs...

The knowledge base here is incredible! Ask a music question and the answers flow! Can you imagine what we could do if we hadn't screwed up our minds with drugs!?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 21, 2010 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Some of us are this way , because of ......enhancements . And I assure you jb my mind is not screwed up .

What did he say ?

Shhh !



What ?

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Jun 21, 2010 4:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

We know who you are and where you live...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 21, 2010 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

You do ?

he's just messing with you

Why ?


no matter , just listen to me sweet pretty baby , it will all be over soon

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 21, 2010 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

you and me and the devil make three
you and me and the devil make three
you and me and the devil make three
you and ....
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This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-06-22 00:51:46

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 21, 2010 6:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

http://www.thedevilmakesthree.com/

Featured on the New Brow soundtrack....

I never let a shameless plug get away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja3hGlNEhT4&;feature=related

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Jun 22, 2010 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Very nice! I think I know that tree...not in a carnal way...just in a more general, knowledge way, I mean...

Time to shut up and stop typing now.

Good night Gracie.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 21, 2010 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

BD , is this the film you are in ?

I had no idea pop music had taken up this song - or at least the title . I was thinking more O Brother then MMan. Is this in public domain , as I can not find authorship ?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 21, 2010 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

I'm not in it, just behind the scenes.

I believe the song you're thinking of us is in the public domain, but not sure

Love that scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY5v9tt62IY

BTW, T-Bone is credited for being the inspiration behind putting together Moonalice. That guy is everywhere....

From wikpedia (so it must be true!) re soundtrack listing:

"Didn't Leave Nobody but the Baby", arrangement by Alan Lomax, T-Bone Burnett and Gillian Welch; performed by Emmylou Harris, Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch – 1:57
Since it says Alan Lomax, I'm assuming he picked up from the field recordings done for the Smithsonian. He and his dad were pioneering ethnomusicologists/field recorders -big inspiration for Mickey Hart's efforts.

http://effortishard.blogspot.com/2010/04/alan-lomax-prison-songs-vol-1-murderous.html

Look for T-Bone to work on soundtrack for upcoming Kerouac film (in next year or two). I've already plugged this Kerouac film with Hunter (http://www.onefastmove.com/the_cast/) involved in upcoming event re same at Henry Miller Library on August 14th.

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Poster: vapors Date: Jun 20, 2010 4:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

Nice! Thanks for that. Seeing that clip of Pops sure makes my Father's Day. I recall the excitement in our house when that aired. As a kid I was a big fan of Louis, and my dad never missed the Johnny Cash show.


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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 20, 2010 6:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD question for my dad

What A Solo by Pops . What a golden note he sustains at the end of it .
I wish all of the JC TV shows were available ( only a compilation of ). Many have told me it was one of the best things on TV at the time .

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